13
Dez
2009

Titel in Traktor Pro rückwärts abspielen

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MuckeIch mochte es schon seit meinem ersten CD-Player Rhythmen zu verändern indem ich 1, 2 Beat rückwärts abspiele.
Während das in Traktor 3 noch problemlos funktionierte, scheint NI diese Funktion in irgendeinem Update von Traktor Pro entfernt zu haben.
Die bisher beste Lösung war der “Reverse Grain” effect mit dem man aber nur 1 Takt des Songs rückwärts abspielen kann was nicht ganz das ist wonach ich gesucht habe.

ns7-reverse

Ich habe alle mögliche versucht..vergeblich..bis ich gestern Nacht mit meinem NS7 rumgespielt habe. Wenn man die den Pitch Bend minus Knopf ewig lange gedrückt hält, dann wird das Lied irgendwann rückwärts abgespielt.

Da hat es mir gleich wieder in den Fingern gejuckt und dieses mal habe ich eine vernünftige und halbwegs saubere Methode gefunden um das in Traktor Pro zu realisieren.

Man brauch dafür 6 Aktionen und 1 Modifier je Deck.
Wie es funktioniert:

Beim Druck auf den Button der Wahl wird das abspielende Lied pausiert. Das ist nötig, weil der tempo bend maximal auf -1 gesetzt werden kann. Wenn der Song gerade spielt hält er dann lediglich an (1-1=0). Wenn er pausiert ist bedeutet -1 hingegen, dass das Lied mit -100% Geschwindigkeit abgespielt wird.
Nach dem pausieren wird der “Tempo Bend (stepless)” auf -1.000 gesetzt und schließlich noch ein Modifier auf 1.

Actung: Während das Lied rückwärts spielt kann es nicht mit angehalten werden mit CUE o.ä. Im Prinzip wird es ja nicht abgespielt sondern nur gepitch-bended (hört sich an wie eine Sexualtechnik).

Wenn man nochmal auf den Button drückt, dann wird der Track weiter abgespielt, Tempo Bend (stepless) und der Modifier wird auf 0 gesetzt.

Das folgende Bild zeigt wie man den Button belegen muss:

traktor-pro-reverse-playback-assignments

Hier noch ne Schritt-für-Schritt-Anleitung:

  1. Erstelle eine Modifier-Aktion
    Modifier Condition M1 (oder was ihr benutzen wollt): 0
    Interaction Mode: Direct
    Set to value: 1
  2. Klicke auf Duplicate und ändere dann
    Modifier Condition M1: 1
    Set to value: 0
  3. Erstelle eine Tempo-Bend (stepless)-Aktion
    Modifier Condition M1: 0
    Interaction Mode: Direct
    Set to value: -1.000
  4. Klicke auf Duplicate und ändere dann
    Modifier Condition M1: 1
    Set to value: 0.000
  5. Erstelle eine Play/Pause-Aktion
    Modifier Condition M1: 0
    Interaction Mode: Direct
    Set to value: 0
  6. Klicke auf Duplicate und ändere dann
    Modifier Condition M1: 1
    Set to value: 1
  7. Legt das richtige Deck für alle Aktionen fest
  8. Legt den Knopf für alle Aktionen via Learn fest

Ganz besonders DJ Quartz aus dem NI Forum wird sich über diese Entdeckung freuen. Er schraubt seit geraumer Zeit an der bisher besten .tsi-Datei für Numark’s NS7 und verbessert es nahezu täglich.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/leigh.corrigall Leigh Corrigall

    Do you have an idea how to get the jog wheels pinning on the V7 and have Scratch Control?

    • http://www.ali.dj Hedgehog

      Yes I do.
      I will publish a post about it soon.

  • http://dadizajn.net Tomislav Simić ToS

    This combo does not work in TPro2, right? I at least was not able to reproduce it.

    • http://www.ali.dj Hedgehog

      I will check it and comment back on this soon.

    • http://dadizajn.net Tomislav Simić ToS

      Excellent, thank you very much. How is that NS7 translator going? How about we connect on DJTT forum, I’d like to hear about issues you’ve encountered.

  • sqgl

    t_b *BEWARE* there is a bug at the bottom of the settings screen that Native Instruments keep ignoring in their releases: The “Set to value” number that is displayed is not necessarily the value that is set. eg If you want 0.000 type it in explicitly. Do not accept the default value. SImilarly if you want 1.000 and it says 1.000, type it in again to make sure. This is a really nasty bug and it took me ages to realise what was going on.

  • http://djSquiggle.com sqgl

    Paulogiogno is right.  In response to a request from blendcorp (who still can’t get it to work) I have put full screen captures online for how to toggle Deck A into reverse/forward  (and Ali you are welcome to use these screen shots on your Hedgehog site). NB I have used a MIDI note as a controller but you can of course use a QWERTY keyboard key instead. http://djSquiggle.com/traktor-pro-tip-reverse-playback/

    • http://www.ali.dj Hedgehog

      Thanks for your work. Sadly I can’t check out your site (currently) because I get a timeout every time I load it. Is this just a temporary issue?

    • Anonymous

      Thanks sqgl for uploading pics. i followed both sets of instructions, original and yours, and still no love. do you know of any other required settings for this to work? perhaps some of my other preference settings are clashing. thanks b

    • Anonymous

      Thanks sqgl for uploading pics. i followed both sets of instructions, original and yours, and still no love. do you know of any other required settings for this to work? perhaps some of my other preference settings are clashing. thanks b

  • http://djSquiggle.com sqgl

    blendcorp asked for clarification so I have put full screen captures of the settings (for forward and reversing Deck A) on my site

  • Paulogiugno

    There is a best way:

    Play/Pause (invert) + Tempo Bend (stepless) -1.000 + Tempo Bend (stepless) 0.000.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    A slightly neater version is in steps 5 & 6 to use “Interaction Mode: Toggle” (instead of “Direct” which requires having to then set the value to 0 or 1).

    • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

      Sorry, glitch (2) was my fault… I think… It works now although there is an unavoidable pop rather than the nice way the old Traktor used to sound like vinyl reversing.

      I made two more assignments to get around problem (1) (I toggle “Key Lock”) and it kind of sounds nice, especially for ambient music; like the way a harmonica changes key when you suck rather than blow :)

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    A slightly neater version is in steps 5 & 6 to use “Interaction Mode: Toggle” (instead of “Direct” which requires having to then set the value to 0 or 1).

    • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

      Sorry, glitch (2) was my fault… I think… It works now although there is an unavoidable pop rather than the nice way the old Traktor used to sound like vinyl reversing.

      I made two more assignments to get around problem (1) (I toggle “Key Lock”) and it kind of sounds nice, especially for ambient music; like the way a harmonica changes key when you suck rather than blow :)

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    As you say an: “almost clean solution”. Let’s spell out why:

    (1) Because it uses a pitch-bend trick, it only works when the “KEY” knob is turned off.

    (2) The track will stop when you press the button, only reversing when you let go. That isn’t so bad if you are quick. No problem going from reverse to forward though.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    As you say an: “almost clean solution”. Let’s spell out why:

    (1) Because it uses a pitch-bend trick, it only works when the “KEY” knob is turned off.

    (2) The track will stop when you press the button, only reversing when you let go. That isn’t so bad if you are quick. No problem going from reverse to forward though.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    Hey Vinicius Hoffmann, howabout *you* make those demo videos? I think Ali has done more than his share for the community.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    Hey Vinicius Hoffmann, howabout *you* make those demo videos? I think Ali has done more than his share for the community.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    Thanks, I didn’t know this “stepless” pitch bend existed and have been missing the reverse function ever since it disappeared. Beginners will be happy with the nice clear instructions, very generous of you.

  • http://DJsquiggle.net sqgl

    Thanks, I didn’t know this “stepless” pitch bend existed and have been missing the reverse function ever since it disappeared. Beginners will be happy with the nice clear instructions, very generous of you.

  • http://www.gianpaj.com GianPaJ

    hey Hedgehog,
    i just discovered your blog and it’s super nice!
    thx for this tip
    i added also to disable the key function while doing the reverse because if not it won’t work, and to enable it back when pressed again.

    the only question is if the key function is disabled before doing reverse can i make it not enable afterwords?

    i don’t know if you can do it. anyway thx
    and please post more tricks using midi!
    (i have a Faderfox DX2) ;)

  • http://www.gianpaj.com GianPaJ

    hey Hedgehog,
    i just discovered your blog and it’s super nice!
    thx for this tip
    i added also to disable the key function while doing the reverse because if not it won’t work, and to enable it back when pressed again.

    the only question is if the key function is disabled before doing reverse can i make it not enable afterwords?

    i don’t know if you can do it. anyway thx
    and please post more tricks using midi!
    (i have a Faderfox DX2) ;)

  • Vinicius Hoffmann [Brazil]

    Hey man, can you put a Demo .mp3 with this effect going on? And how is it sounds when you use reverse grain instead of your technique?
    Thanks!!

  • Vinicius Hoffmann [Brazil]

    Hey man, can you put a Demo .mp3 with this effect going on? And how is it sounds when you use reverse grain instead of your technique?
    Thanks!!